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because a cloture file was submitted by harry reid. do you think -- you said that the democrats are embarrassed, but is it republicans are embarrassed to support one of their own because chuck hagel did not support the iraq surge? is this basically trying to settle an old score? >> well, i don't see it that way at all. i think you took a look at chuck hagel's entire history in terms of his opposition to sanctions against iran. different things he's written about disarmament including unilateral disarmament. i think he's the wrong person for this position. and anybody that watched the hearngs in just the past week knows that this man is not prepared to be secretary of defense in terms of making sure we as a nation remain strong and able to defend ourselves in all situations. >> even though in his testimony, america has and must maintain the strong esmil tear in the world that we must lead the international community to confront challenges today and must use tools of american power to protect our citizens and our interests. do you think
because a cloture file was submitted by harry reid. do you think -- you said that the democrats are embarrassed, but is it republicans are embarrassed to support one of their own because chuck hagel did not support the iraq surge? is this basically trying to settle an old score? >> well, i don't see it that way at all. i think you took a look at chuck hagel's entire history in terms of his opposition to sanctions against iran. different things he's written about disarmament including...
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harry reid could do that. not knowing the outcome. then the other scenario, which is gaining some sort of talking here is if they could extend it because congress is away next week and have the vote effectively a week from monday. give it a little more time. politically that's not so good for democrats. republicans would welcome that extra time. those who don't want to see hagel confirm think maybe in the intervening time something might surface that would tore meade pedohis nomination. this is a numbers game. this is a positioning game. trying to get more information. hagel is at the center of it, but it's about much more than just chuck hagel. andrea. >> let me just interject also, kelly, that there is an issue here. the defense ministers meet at nato next week in brussels. they want chuck hagel, the administration wants chuck hagel, the new defense secretary to be leading this going forward. they don't want to have to ask leon panetta, who is still the defense secretary, to go and lead the delegation as a lame-duck. chris, this get
harry reid could do that. not knowing the outcome. then the other scenario, which is gaining some sort of talking here is if they could extend it because congress is away next week and have the vote effectively a week from monday. give it a little more time. politically that's not so good for democrats. republicans would welcome that extra time. those who don't want to see hagel confirm think maybe in the intervening time something might surface that would tore meade pedohis nomination. this is...
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>> this is what harry reid said. we're without a defense secretary. there are a no, ma'am of departments that don't have people confirmed or nominated. department of labor for instance. but at this point, it's rare. as senator reid said we're fighting wars and dealing with issues in syria and north korea and we don't have a secretary of defense. at least not right now. >> thank you, my friend. you can always clarify a lab rinth of procedures. with us, senator john mccain. how do you think this wraps up? >> well, i think it wraps up with us coming back from recess. we're in recess next week. we never miss a recess. and we'll be back following tuesday and i believe we'll vote for hagel and there will be sufficient votes to overcome any requirements there may be. and i think we'll vote his nomination on a party line basis, just about, what rare exception. look, we didn't get the answers to many questions, we just got the answers to major questions that senator graham, senator aye i don't ayotte and i had this morning. even though harry reid has a good me
>> this is what harry reid said. we're without a defense secretary. there are a no, ma'am of departments that don't have people confirmed or nominated. department of labor for instance. but at this point, it's rare. as senator reid said we're fighting wars and dealing with issues in syria and north korea and we don't have a secretary of defense. at least not right now. >> thank you, my friend. you can always clarify a lab rinth of procedures. with us, senator john mccain. how do you...
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the example cited first by harry reid, with the governor arguing that the government should focus less on washington's budget battle and more on what's happening in the states. mark, i think you guys do an excellent job outlining the examples here. so the question is do you -- >> it actually remains to be seen. this is what happens to a party that is out of power, out of the white house. we saw the democrats grapple with this after john kerry lost in 2004. so 2005-2006 was all a battle of ideas, how do you position the party for success and the lessons and the fights in the republican party has now either help it going ahead to 2016 or actually could keep it where it currently is right now. but to answer your question, we're really not going to know for another year or two, this is just the beginning of those types of fights. >> congresswoman marsha blackburn was on with chuck todd this morning and he asked her, is the gop problem a message or messenger problem, here's what she said? >> i think it's a little bit of beth in that we have a good solid philosophical core, we have the right
the example cited first by harry reid, with the governor arguing that the government should focus less on washington's budget battle and more on what's happening in the states. mark, i think you guys do an excellent job outlining the examples here. so the question is do you -- >> it actually remains to be seen. this is what happens to a party that is out of power, out of the white house. we saw the democrats grapple with this after john kerry lost in 2004. so 2005-2006 was all a battle of...
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the bottom line is senate majority leader harry reid is pushing forward though. he thinks is he going to get a floor vote on the nomination fry day. the white house is hopeful that ed hagel will clear that shep? >> shepard: ed henry at the white house tonight. thank you. a little black fur ball was the big winner. top grog a breed a lot of folks didn't even know existed. >> best in show winner, with 137th westminster kennel club dog show the affenpinscher. >> you heard it the of a pen pin affenpinscher. that's a first for westminster. earlier today on jonathan hunt got a smoosh in face-to-face with banana joe. >> is banana joe like every other model sits around in doggy clubs and drinking the perrine that equivalent or is he more of a couch dog. >> he leads as much as possible a normal life when is he off the shows. but, you know, like a little athlete. he has to be certain regiment to keep competing. >> i guess now like other models is he a sleep around time. he he is a stud. >> exactly. retirement. that was his lpga last dog show. >> is he a stud. if you aren't
the bottom line is senate majority leader harry reid is pushing forward though. he thinks is he going to get a floor vote on the nomination fry day. the white house is hopeful that ed hagel will clear that shep? >> shepard: ed henry at the white house tonight. thank you. a little black fur ball was the big winner. top grog a breed a lot of folks didn't even know existed. >> best in show winner, with 137th westminster kennel club dog show the affenpinscher. >> you heard it the...
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from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the hardest hit country were debt-plagued spain and italy. france was sluggish. growth in germany down .6%. slow growth in economic powerhouse germany is especially worrying. the weakness is hurting the german exports. adding to economic headache, strike of security workers for higher pay snarled airports in germany today. >> he said is up it. even if i suffer for it. further come pounding problems debt-ridden countries are saddled with high unemployment. the jobless rate in greece is record 27%. i come here all the time. there are no jobs. economists say there could be some pick nun euro growth this year. that wou
from harry reid. and from vice president biden, "today's three letter word -- l-o-v-e." we now know the recession and the euro zone is getting worse, not better. that cannot be good news for the u.s., actually. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the story from london. >> the latest figure shows euro zone falling deeper in recession. >> europe is spluttering, stuttering and having a terrible time. >> effectively a double dip recession. some of the...
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it was just a month ago that harry reid backed off the idea of filibuster reform. do you think going through this may change his thinking a little bit? >> i don't know. what i do know is this, i know chuck hagel very well, i like him a lot. he was a democrat, he was a republican in the senate. he is clearly well qualified to be secretary of defense. he did have a day that i'm sure could have been better when he was before the committee, but they were pretty merciless the way they went after him on several subjects. >> whatever harry reid's going to do, what about somebody who's served in the chamber and is watching this right now, do you think filibuster should be on the table flight? >> the fill buggser reform that i would support is simply getting rid of the filibuster most on the motion to proceed. the filibuster issue, it's not because of the rules, it's because of the people who have come to the senate recently, who said, you know, what i'm going to do is i'm going to throw the wrench in the crank case here and just stop everything in its cracks, we have got p
it was just a month ago that harry reid backed off the idea of filibuster reform. do you think going through this may change his thinking a little bit? >> i don't know. what i do know is this, i know chuck hagel very well, i like him a lot. he was a democrat, he was a republican in the senate. he is clearly well qualified to be secretary of defense. he did have a day that i'm sure could have been better when he was before the committee, but they were pretty merciless the way they went...
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harry reid had a chance to go for a more full-throated filibuster. but his reasoning was that when the democrats are in the majority -- in the minority and that could happen, this next election, that they want to have that same leverage that republicans have been using with this filibuster reform to block many of the president's actions. but this is a real surprise that hagel has essentially been filibusterd. it looks like ult mimately, he will be confirmed. they have been pretty successful in forcing the president's hand to release more information on that. but, ultimately, i think they are giving away some of their standing. they're supposed to be the party of national security, the party of defense in this way by blocking this very important post. i think they're doing some damage -- >> yeah, we're talking about secretary of defense. we're talking about who's going to head the pentagon. and let me tell you this, ryan, tell you how blatantly inconsistent and unprecedented this is. he said in 2005 that presidential nominees shouldn't be filibustered
harry reid had a chance to go for a more full-throated filibuster. but his reasoning was that when the democrats are in the majority -- in the minority and that could happen, this next election, that they want to have that same leverage that republicans have been using with this filibuster reform to block many of the president's actions. but this is a real surprise that hagel has essentially been filibusterd. it looks like ult mimately, he will be confirmed. they have been pretty successful in...
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you know, you hear harry reid essentially making an appeal to history saying, yeah, this is unprecedented. is this what you want to be remembered for? for republicans that is a potentially potent line of argument. republicans don't really know what voters want to remember them as or see them as right now, and so that is something they're taking into consideration. >> republicans don't really know who republicans are at this point so to si erin degree. curt, we went back into the archives. fewer than 2% of cabinet nominations have been rejected since 1789. john tower rejected for a defense secretary in 1989. you have to go back to 1844 to james porter, who was rejected for secretary -- >> he was robbed, though. >> where was he during benghazi? >> this is the united states senate, which part of its brand is this civility, and who are they doing this to? a guy who was a republican senator four years ago. i've decided it's a bit of joe lieberman derangement syndrome. a heiretick from your own party, once he is playing for the other team, it drives you crazy, and it's driving the republicans c
you know, you hear harry reid essentially making an appeal to history saying, yeah, this is unprecedented. is this what you want to be remembered for? for republicans that is a potentially potent line of argument. republicans don't really know what voters want to remember them as or see them as right now, and so that is something they're taking into consideration. >> republicans don't really know who republicans are at this point so to si erin degree. curt, we went back into the archives....
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bill: harry reid is talking about this potentially on the floor of the senate. if there is news we'll bring it to our viewers. graham says the debate is not over, it has not been serious. what gives? >> reporter: a couple of things, one is confirmation hearings matter. this was not a good showing for chuck hagel in this confirmation hearing and despite the fact that you have other controversial cabinet nominees who have potentially bumpy confirmation hearings hagel's did not go well, and even folks on the democratic side will acknowledge that, and that has made it even more difficult. then you have the additional problem, from his supporters' point of view, that there are calls for speeches that did not come out for the committee that hagel gave and they never received, and now you have one speech, for example, that a group says that they can get to the committee by friday. its already out of committee, but -- so now it's on the house floor. this vote happens, they need 60 votes. democrats have a 55-45 vote margin, they need five republicans. you have two republ
bill: harry reid is talking about this potentially on the floor of the senate. if there is news we'll bring it to our viewers. graham says the debate is not over, it has not been serious. what gives? >> reporter: a couple of things, one is confirmation hearings matter. this was not a good showing for chuck hagel in this confirmation hearing and despite the fact that you have other controversial cabinet nominees who have potentially bumpy confirmation hearings hagel's did not go well, and...
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so harry reid is frustrated. >> mr. president, in less than two hours our country will be without a secretary of defense at a time when we have a war going on in afghanistan, and about 70,000 troops there. we have a nuclear weapon was detonated in north korea. >> reporter: a nuclear test was done in north korea and 66,000 troops in afghanistan but you get the picture. these are serious times and so harry reid and the democrats say, we need a secretary of defense and soon, jon. jenna: point well-taken there. what are republicans saying about the nomination? what are they telling you and what about this delay, this potential delay? >> reporter: well, jenna, several leading republicans tell me they think chuck hagel will ultimately get through based on the strength of democratic support. they're holding out because they want more information what the president president did the night of the benghazi attack, 9/11. they want that information. they want the texts of speeches for chuck hague gill five years. they feel like the
so harry reid is frustrated. >> mr. president, in less than two hours our country will be without a secretary of defense at a time when we have a war going on in afghanistan, and about 70,000 troops there. we have a nuclear weapon was detonated in north korea. >> reporter: a nuclear test was done in north korea and 66,000 troops in afghanistan but you get the picture. these are serious times and so harry reid and the democrats say, we need a secretary of defense and soon, jon....
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reid would get any republican votes, and he's actually secured quite a few. >> actually not a surprise. not a surprise because most republicans will say a president has the right to choose his own nominees. they believe that so that when the president is from their party, that holds true. what happened here is that hagel's performance at his hearing and some of the questions that have come up, some of the unanswered questions, have dragged that out. there are two factions of republicans who have slowed this down. a group focused solely on hagel wanting more information and that includes the new texas senator ted cruz who has been particularly critical of hagel in raising questions about his ties to foreign groups that might have provided him some salary during the years sips he left the senate. that's been very harsh questioning. on the other hand, there was a small faction of mccain, graham, and ayotte, who wanted more information about benghazi. i just spoke to them, and they said they believe that taking the stand was very effective. they got a letter from the white house that provi
reid would get any republican votes, and he's actually secured quite a few. >> actually not a surprise. not a surprise because most republicans will say a president has the right to choose his own nominees. they believe that so that when the president is from their party, that holds true. what happened here is that hagel's performance at his hearing and some of the questions that have come up, some of the unanswered questions, have dragged that out. there are two factions of republicans...
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reid does in the have the 60 votes to overcome a republican filibuster. he needs five republican votes but so far he only has two, mike johanns of nebraska and thad cochrane of mississippi. so he took his colleagues to task in his own soft-spoken way. >> it's tragic that they've decided to filibuster this qualified nominee. it is really unfortunate. >> michael: you know, reid is of course not totally off the hook. he didn't push filibuster reform through earlier this year even though it looked like he had the chance to do so. but the ludicrous part of this whole thing is the reason why republicans are giving for opposing hagel is bengahzi. that this was a cover up after the ambassador was killed. they're alleging that chuck hagel was involved. not only is that a stretch but chuck hagel oversee something like this. they dignified the response. after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. th
reid does in the have the 60 votes to overcome a republican filibuster. he needs five republican votes but so far he only has two, mike johanns of nebraska and thad cochrane of mississippi. so he took his colleagues to task in his own soft-spoken way. >> it's tragic that they've decided to filibuster this qualified nominee. it is really unfortunate. >> michael: you know, reid is of course not totally off the hook. he didn't push filibuster reform through earlier this year even...
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. >> dana: a race walker at the capitol is harry reid. >> brian: 1897 is when olympics started and it began with wrestling. it's the ultimate character sport. you can be big or small. you have a place. if they take it away it's going to crush a sport beat up by title 9 in college. >> andrea: as a greek i'm offended they are trying to change the olympics. this is unfortunate for guys training for the olympics for a long time. this will hurt college sports and high school sports. what are you supposed to work toward? if you get rid of the super bowl, the ultimate goal. this is the goal for the guys. this is the wussificaton of the world. >> gregworld. >> bob: you need all these for modern petasiaon, who would you rather watch? >> eric: they took baseball out as well. leave wrestling in. every high school and college in country has a wrestling team. you need a mat. that is all you need. you don't have to have equipment and tons of insurance. >> dana: i think this is a war on short guys. this is a war on shorter guys. and from p.r. perspective, give them advice. donald rumsfeld is great.
. >> dana: a race walker at the capitol is harry reid. >> brian: 1897 is when olympics started and it began with wrestling. it's the ultimate character sport. you can be big or small. you have a place. if they take it away it's going to crush a sport beat up by title 9 in college. >> andrea: as a greek i'm offended they are trying to change the olympics. this is unfortunate for guys training for the olympics for a long time. this will hurt college sports and high school...
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she did it, the same exact thing happened, and when harry reid, back on the republican side, he -- e of them that he demanded to have a 60-vote threshold. john bryson, secretary of commerce, he was required to have a 60-vote. this is not a bill buster, but saying you have to file cloture in order to gt this on the floor for a vote. that's a 60 vote threshold, and, lou, that happens all the time. lieu -- lou: first time was the majority leader's point, and aside from that, you know, i know you all and the senator are fascinated by the arcane rules and procedures which you must observe. for the rest of us who sit out here, you know, in the vast -- the vast rest of this country, we're kind of iterested in whether or not you're pleased with where we are with whether or not you think that hagel was ultimately win con cnfirmation. >> okay. first of all, let me tell you, senator cruz is a new senator. he's on the arms services committee. i'm the ranking member as you pointed out. all he wants is information he asked for for several weeks having to do with speeches that hagel made to foreign
she did it, the same exact thing happened, and when harry reid, back on the republican side, he -- e of them that he demanded to have a 60-vote threshold. john bryson, secretary of commerce, he was required to have a 60-vote. this is not a bill buster, but saying you have to file cloture in order to gt this on the floor for a vote. that's a 60 vote threshold, and, lou, that happens all the time. lieu -- lou: first time was the majority leader's point, and aside from that, you know, i know you...
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reid never got them a committee hearing. >> it's starting to seem just a bit like the president doesn't have much regard for that co-equal branch of government stuff or checks and balances. he has a very specific agenda at work here, and that is to move straight ahead with the nominations of sharon block, robert griffin. there's only one, the chairman, mark, mark gaston pierce who is lawfully confirmed by the united states senate, it's-- >> supposed to be five on there. right now three, only one is whom is there legitimately. >> after the d.c. court of appeals rule it's unconstitutional, which in the views of many makes all of tfofe decisions they've made over 200, not valid and have to be reconsidered at some point by a lawfully-- >> if the supreme court reverses the lower court they're back in business. right now the only decision standing and they haven't officially appealed it, nlrb, is the one saying you do not belong on that board and you never had the authority to appoint them, president obama. >> there are a couple of levels here, several levels in which this president is basica
reid never got them a committee hearing. >> it's starting to seem just a bit like the president doesn't have much regard for that co-equal branch of government stuff or checks and balances. he has a very specific agenda at work here, and that is to move straight ahead with the nominations of sharon block, robert griffin. there's only one, the chairman, mark, mark gaston pierce who is lawfully confirmed by the united states senate, it's-- >> supposed to be five on there. right now...
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now, harry reid filed a motion to limit debate and force a vote. even though hagel is a former republican senator, it's his fellow republicans who have been strongly opposing his nomination. now, democrats hold 55 seats in the senate. but they need five republican votes to move ahead with hagel's confirmation. >>> this morning, former secretary of state, hillary clinton is being honored at the pentagon. we're watching the pentagon this morning. defense secretary leon panetta will be hosting the event on his last day in office. hillary clinton is being honored for her four years as secretary of state during which she traveled more than 1 million miles and visited 1 -- 112 countries. >>> in just hours, the national rifle association will directly respond to president obama's state of the union address. the nra rejects the president's gun control proposal. as kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, this is all happening as the california congresswoman joins other moms against gun violence today. >> reporter: jackie speier is joining
now, harry reid filed a motion to limit debate and force a vote. even though hagel is a former republican senator, it's his fellow republicans who have been strongly opposing his nomination. now, democrats hold 55 seats in the senate. but they need five republican votes to move ahead with hagel's confirmation. >>> this morning, former secretary of state, hillary clinton is being honored at the pentagon. we're watching the pentagon this morning. defense secretary leon panetta will be...
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then we have harry reid who is the majority leader. so the democrats are in control of both. now, if you think back at what happened back in -- during the last bush administration, we had exactly the reverse. george bush was president of the united states and the democrats were a minority. same situation. so what happened? first of all, we had bolton come up, john bolton. same thing, subjected to a 60-vote margin. we had steve -- dirk kempthorne. all remember dirk kempthorne. there are a lot of people who did not approve of him. he was appointed by bush, a republican, and then when he came over here, the democrats didn't like him, they subjected him to a 60-vote margin. that wasn't a filibuster. this isn't a filibuster today. people are trying to say that and blame me as being the bad guy that's causing a filibuster. it's not the case at all. any more than it was the case back in the 2005-2006 and other times when we had a nominee that was put forth by president bush. it was objected to by the democrats. now, dirk kempthorne, when he was nominated to be the secretary of inter
then we have harry reid who is the majority leader. so the democrats are in control of both. now, if you think back at what happened back in -- during the last bush administration, we had exactly the reverse. george bush was president of the united states and the democrats were a minority. same situation. so what happened? first of all, we had bolton come up, john bolton. same thing, subjected to a 60-vote margin. we had steve -- dirk kempthorne. all remember dirk kempthorne. there are a lot of...
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it won't be a filibuster, but they're forcing harry reid to basically go and get 60 votes to confirm hagel. >> why is that? >> why are they doing it? >> why the change? why the change of heart? >> well, i think mccain has gone back and forth. i think at the beginning he suggested that he might try to block hagel's nomination. then he defended him the other day when the criticism really got out of bounds. and now he's back to saying he may try to block it. but it feels like reid will get his 60 votes. >> he's going to, but willie, they keep going back to benghazi. by the way, listen, we've said here clearly the white house screwed up, the state department screwed up, it was hillary clinton's low point. they asked for security in benghazi. they didn't get it. the ambassador asked for help. he didn't get it. what does that have to do with chuck hagel? >> well, john mccain has been trying to get answers from the white house about benghazi. i think he sees this as a moment of leverage now. he can hold this up. he's got a bunch of republican senators who will follow his lead. >> what does
it won't be a filibuster, but they're forcing harry reid to basically go and get 60 votes to confirm hagel. >> why is that? >> why are they doing it? >> why the change? why the change of heart? >> well, i think mccain has gone back and forth. i think at the beginning he suggested that he might try to block hagel's nomination. then he defended him the other day when the criticism really got out of bounds. and now he's back to saying he may try to block it. but it feels...